i want to know if a set of 33x9.50bfg allterrains will fit on a stock tj with a little bit of fender modification.thanks  

jp stuck 35's on a stock tj with a bunch of modification/trimming, but no lift

maybe they could speak to this??

Pete

i have 31x10.5 on 15x8s (my friend has the same set up with 15x7s and they rub bad) with out a lift or fender modification.  Even i think i need a lift for that but they do fit.  Im thinking you will be able to fit that under there but honestly it wont look good at all and it will only help clearance half an inch for every inch more of tire.  If i were doing it  I would do it right and get a 4 inch lift and not mess up a nice tj.  Also who would put 9.5s that is weak.  

keeping the center of gravity down is nice.  might be worth messing up a nice TJ.

9.5's weak, bah.  comes down to wheather you want to float or dig in.  wide will help you and look nice, but anyone who drives in snow know's skinny is the ticket.

all comes down to if you're a poser, or want the best function for your $$.  

Pete

wider is better in snow,you dont dig down to the ice and get stuck.mud you want skinny tire to dig.but you can fir them,but they will rub,you need to mount them on a 10 inch wide rim,brings the sidewalls out and drops the overall size,and if you are getting BFG AT'S,they are not a true 33".mine measure out to be 32 inches tall and they have 4500 miles on the so all the tread is still there.but the 35 no lift was cool,id do it if i didnt have a lift already.  

wider is better in the snow?  you must be from california.

put 2 vehicles side by side in the snow.  one with wide tires, the other skinny.  skinny will win every time.

it's all about contact patch and lbs/square inch.

im in iowa,where we get lots of snow.and everytime it does snow we go out and hit trails and drifts.the wider the tire is the better off you are,wont dig down,more contact to the snow.skinny tires will dig till it hits a hard surface.i dont know where you got your info but its way off.its just like sand,wider is better to stay on top and not dig through.  

i'm in canada.

'nuf said.

Pete

sounds like u 2 are talking about different driving. on the road in snow narrow is what you want. trying to stay on top wide is better (just like the comercials).  

i think you are probably right, but the person that posted this wanted 33x9.5.  definately not the sexiest tire on a jeep, but very functional.  should keep the on road feel close to stock, and be reasonably safe regarless of weather.

how often has anyone been offroad and said ... darn, if only i had wider tires?

depends on how you wheel, i guess.

If they're really wide you should stay on top, yes  

it also comes down to what kinda rig the tires are going on as well.i have a tj,so its light to begin with so i would rather have the wider tire and the all-around benifits of that type of tire.

but as regard to "canada enough said"!what,do you get speical snow that only skinny tires can go through.its the same all over,just comes down the the use of your jeep and what you want.i wouldent waste good money on a 33' pizza cutter,but what ever floats your boat i guess.

nah, I'm just being an idiot.

i'm not sure if anyone has seen the discovery channel program on the artic expedition with the "other 4x4's".  they relied heavily on floatation ... but man, the width of the tire was insane.

from what i've expirenced, when flotation occurs on snow ... it's cool until the next time I stop.  at this point, my jeep digs right down to the base to get traction and build momentum.  once i'm moving again ... it'll ride ontop until the next time i stop.  and, if you happen to be in snow deper than your frame?  start digging.

i run 10.5" wide tires, so maybe there more advantage to an 11.5 or 12.5 ... but i don't think the gains are significant.

just my opinion.

Pete

yeah i think i seen what you are talking about,the 4runners with #### cepeck fun countrys.i dont think theyhad more than 2psi in those tires.there are tons of tires out there,all for a differnt purpose,and it would be neat to be the guy who gets to trash and tear them up on differnt terrains.i just ditched my BFG AT'S for the new mickey thompson baja mtz,they ride just as smooth and quiet.and i know they will do better in the elements than the 3 terrains did,my opinion on BFG all terrains are dim,they are good on dry pavement,wet,and some snow,otherwise they are worthless.and some people swear by them like they are god's gift to 4x4's.their m/t's are good,but ill never run their A/T again.  

Oh hell, I'll chime in here... '00 Sahara TJ, 4.0 auto tranny + 2" body lift and 33"x12.5 GoodYear MT/Rs; first snow season with the 33s...

       Traction debate aside, the biggest (so to speak) advantage to a wider tire I have found only after buying/installing/driving with them is the side to side stability in street turns and tight turns. Of course, the change in rim offset is considerable from stock (I chose 3 & 5/16th offset) and helps this tremendously.  A further aid is the load class of the MT/R ... no more sidewall folding and total mush feel when pulling a slow U-turn on pavement. 

      One more thing -  I don't "pose", I wanted the big tires - so you pay for them and take the good with the bad, period.  Tell someone with a 'Vette with an LT-1 engine in it or a Lambo that wide tires are POSER-ISH due to the "skinny tires rule for traction" and they will likely kick your a$$... ha!