Weee....My Jeep Looks Cool!!!

I am tired of people buying Jeeps and wanting to lift them because they think it looks cool.

 Can't these people find some other hobby to *** up?

Really, these have to be the same type people that f#cked up Harley-Davidson. There was a time when you wouldn't catch a lawyer, judge, or accountant anywhere near a Harley..........unless of course they had been kidnapped.

Why do I care?   Ask yourself.......How much did Harely's cost before rich "wanna-be's" started buying them?

Now imagine a $50K Wrangler next time you go to a dealership.

To all of you who are reading this and thinking:

"Oh my Gawd, like what a total A-hole."

Your not cool.....your never gonna be cool........your a Latte sippin', espresso drinkin', city dwellin' pansy that doesn't know a thing about Jeeps or what they're all about..........so go back to your office cubicle, or water cooler, and whine about some "jerk" on the JP message board.

It's a Jeep thing....AND YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!

Hey I just want to thank you for answering my question. but if I would have known that you were gonna turn around and *** about me not off roadin my jeep I wouldnt have been so cool on my reply. Now let me cue you in on a few things.

First of all Im not some yuppy that sits behind a desk! I get enough off roading fun on the Bulldozer that I run for a living and then I come home and jump on my $40,000. custom Harley and usually take off to my sons baseball games or whatever sport he's playin at the time. So you tell me when would i have the time to take my jeep out playin.

Secondly with both arms sleaved in tattoos and peircings everywhere there's not to many offices that would welcome me in. So just keep b*tchin cause your the one that wont ever be cool, unless you consider sittin on the side of the road in a brand new Jeep that you just rolled while you were tryin to climb some f*ckin hill cool!!!!!!!!!  

If people don't keep buying them ... they won't keep making them.  

sometimes all it takes is the 'i wanna look cool' attitude to get a person addicted.

It's up to the die-hard jeepers to tolerate and help those people discover the true meaning of owning/maintaining/living with thier jeep.

Oh, and I have done some moderate to serious offroading ... but most days I just love to drop the top and let the miles slide by.

My 2 cents.

Pete

Chill man.....Wasn't talking about you......I could tell buy your name(CAT6RXL) you were not a yuppy. I gave you some more advice on your post, you can take it or leave it.......If you must know I run into a lot of "wanna-be" off roaders and Harley riders in my line of work (Police Officer).

However, I do think it is insane to pay $40,000 dollars for a Harley, no matter what you do for a living......every vehicle conveys something about the owner/operator:

BMW = Low class yuppy, i.e. junior executive etc.

Mercedes = Medium range yuppy, depending upon model.

Bentley, Ferrari = Full Fledged yuppy.

$40,000 dollar Harley = Somebody that has watched way to many "Jesse James", American Chopper type T.V. shows.

If you were into custom Harley's before the current rage of the above mentioned T.V. shows, then you are the exception and not the rule.

My point is......be yourself, and don't buy/modify a vehicle just because YOU THINK it will enhance you image, it will only impress people who are as shallow as yourself.

You have a valid point when it comes to people keeping the brand alive by purchasing new Jeeps.....However, if it becomes "Trendy" to own and modify a Jeep, (Harely-Davidson and American Chopper/Jesse James) then supply and demand economics kick in and prices skyrocket out of reach of the people who kept it going for the first 60 years. (Jeep 1941-present)

For example, a 2003 Kawasaki ZX-6R Sport bike is far, far, more reliable, and technologically advanced than a 2003 Harley-Davidson.....but the price is 6 or 7 times higher for the Harley.......why, because there are people who are stupid and "Trendy" enough to pay that for it.

My point is don't modify for asthetic reasons only.....

I understand your point.  I'd like to make another.

I like the TJ, but I'd never buy a new one again.  I look to the people leasing them, and buying them as sources for my next 'new to me' jeep.

I also understand the Harley thing ... but I've had the 'near death' experience that excludes me from this hobby. 

It's hard to say what one thing keeps the jeep thing alive ... but this forum seems to be mostly positive towards all jeep owners. 

I don't look forward to the $50k TJ, and I'm not the biggest fan of the newbie in his rubicon kicking my ass offroad ... but I still love it.

Pete

Don't make me out to be a newbie hater.....I respect all Jeep owners, just not all people who own Jeeps.

And no one here can say that if you saw a 1942 Willys MB, Lowered, 2WD, with neon pink paint, hydraulics, and 20" Gold rims, you would accept the owner as a true Jeeper.

I will glady work with anyone who is new to Jeep ownership, but I will give the same advice as I gave CAT6RXL....don't lift it because you think it will look cool. Take it wheelin' first, find the limits, and if you need more ground clearance......then lift it, but do it right, with a quality kit, ring and pinion change, etc.

Couldn't help but reply...

Just give the advice and let the city slickers go.  It's fun to see them practically cry when their thousands of dollars of extra equipment on their $25,000 Jeep can't follow a stock height CJ.

To those who think the lift is the first thing to do:

My Jeep received its first measly 2" body lift after 3 years of fourwheelin...I could go a lot of places in a stock height jeep.  Most people outside the Jeep culture think a lift will get them in.  I don't know how many of them that I left way behind me.  I built up a strong drive train and let the outside look ugly.  There's beautiful Jeeps all around where I live, but only a couple can navigate the trails.  Know your rig before you start adding stuff to it.  The right drivetrain setup and just plain knowing the limits of your Jeep will get you farther than any lift.

If you're not going to fourwheel, don't add the lift! 

~2Jeeps~

I see that I need to clarify a few more things for ya.

 I've been ridin motorcycles since I was 4 yrs old, started on a mini bike with a lawn mower engine and then moved up to racing motorcross locally. Then when I got my license my mode of transportation was GSXR 1100.

  I then decided to buy a Harley(long before anybody ever heard of Jesse James or Orange Co. Choppers)because I wanted one, not anybody else. The $40,000 came over time with all the custom *** i put on.

  So in case you havent figured it out yet I am bein myself and if you would have read a little closer to my first post,                     i  

told you in that, that I was doin it for personal preference(thats what I like).

   And one more thing the way I look at it, its a jeep thing no matter what you do with it(lifted,stock,on-road,off-road,pickin up kids from school)it doesnt matter how you use it its the fact that you have one that you work hard to pay for.

I paid $27700 for my extra equiped 2003 stock Jeep. Yes I live in the city, I have taken it on trails every chance I get some people would not hike through though. And get stuck....left behind....by a CJ....I do not think so! The group I hang with would not do such a thing, IF I should ever get.....stuck. Personally, I would never put a BODY lift on my Jeep. Lift, who needs lift? The person wanting to go over the bigger rock ?!?!  Sure I'll lift it some day, but just enough to get the high pinion to fit. Clearence is my plan holding LCG! I plan on touring the continent with my cruse controled, air conditioned,locked and loaded Jeep but do not want to be catching to much air. I enjoy the fact I can get others free from  a'hole ';>  HAPPY TRAILS , TJmak     Hay wait.....does any one know where to get the new "cool" dictionary. There are thousands of jeepers out that do not know what they are doing! According to Webster,"cool":to become less angry, excited,zealous, etc. Yea we know who's COOL! Crack one open, chill. Everyone has there OPINION!!!!! 

just wanted to jump in and give my opinion.  i agree with your view to some extent. i consider myself a veteran jeeper and have a heaviily modified cj7. i see people with lifted tj's and think"that will never see a mile offroad, what a waste" on the other hand, currentlly i don't own a pickup truck but when i buy another one, i will probably lift it. i doubt if it will see much action offroad, but i think a lifted truck looks better than stock. people like to modify their vehicles. just because a muscle car has big, fat, rear tires doesn't necessarily mean the owner drag races, it just looks good on the rig. as far as custom choppers and harleys go, anything custom is going to have a hefty price tag. just because it's mainsteam doesn't make it uncool. it had to be cool to gain that much popularity.  one last analogy, i take my stock cherokee 4 wheeling all the time. bone stock. i don't think there are any grocery gettin' soccer moms saying "if he's gonna 4 wheel, why doesn't he lift it? it's not a real grocery getter, he's just a poser!"  

Don't know if I should cheer or boo.  I have an issue with anyone that has a piece of equipment and doesn't know how to use it.  Lifted jeep, portable paint sprayer, or whatever.  It's a waste of a good piece of equipment.

On the other hand my lady has been called a "poser" a few times while she is driving my jeep.  She doesn't wheel, I do.  People jump to conclusions so fast.  I would much rather her drive the jeep in bad weather than her car.

She does no how to put it into four wheel.  Doesn't run it in four wheel on dry roads.  She respects it and it's ability to take you places most people can't go.  That's alot more than alot of Jeep owners that I know.

IT IS A JEEP THING AND I DO UNDERSTAND-  It's just alot of other people that don't, they need to be shown it's value without bi^&*in' at them.

I do reserve the right to say there are those out there that know and ignore it.  I have no compassion for them.

I live in the city, but I was raised in the country.  See what I mean about jumping to conclusions.

No point in whining to anyone really.... just gets in the way of progress!

 I like my jeep, You like your Harley, Sounds win, win to me? As long as nobody runs over you with a jeep when you're on your Harley I would think we're all ok?

I once went to a Harley party in Feb... In Minnesota.... Everyone was wearing their gear for riding... They drove their cars..... Hmmm I thought? It was 10 degrees out? Well, To each is own eh?

Erik.

Getting a little hot at my words...

I have the utmost respect for anyone who can carry their machine, onroad or off.  I was not downing just those that live in the city.  Sounds like you're someone who knows how to drive and I love to see that, BUT...

Too often I trail ride with friends who have extreme vehicles compared to mine.  Many of them do not know how to climb a hill, navigate small trails, or even place a tire.  This would still be okay as everyone has to start somewhere, but then instead of learning how to control their rig, they recklessly endanger themselves and others, or cause unnessesary damage to the trail.

My point?  I believe knowing your vehicle (lifted or not) will provide much more excitement and fun than just following others (i.e. getting a lift before you know your rig's capabilities).  I have a real problem with those who think they are God as soon as they add a few mods.  Granted I could travel much more extreme trails in a tricked out Jeep, but testing the limits of my skills in my stock Jeep proved to be fun and exciting.  Sometimes running stock is the biggest challenge.  The body lift bit...I'll leave that alone.  A full day of cutting and welding provided that extra tire/flex clearence.  I don't regret the decision at all.

~2Jeeps~

Well said.

I have thought about putting a lift on my '97 TJ (225,000 k's), but I really can't justify it.  I have been on a couple of Jamboree's and offroaded with local clubs.  This was definately enough challenge for me.

I have a friend who is lifted above average.  When he offroads with friends ... he's bored.  The only times he is challenged is when he's out with a club on a trail that excludes stock or slightly modified jeeps.

I'll stay where I am, and like it.

Pete