When a New Vehicle is Destroyed at the Hands of Inexpierence !!!!!!!!!

**********]JUST SAW THIS IN ANOTHER FORUM, a customer and a 4WP employee are going at it  ***********


YOUR COMPANY HAS DESTROYED AND IS DESTROYING BRAND NEW 4X4'S ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WITH NON CERTIFIED MECHANICS WHO ARE IN THE THE TRAINING  PROCESS THAT LEARN ON OUR VEHICLES TO GET THEIR LICENSE

LOOK AT THE AGES OF THESE PEOPLE, where is the senior manager????

YOUR BOSS GREG ADLER NEEDS TO COME CLEAN, AS HE WAS WAS INVOLVED IN THIS FROM DAY ONE,  TRASHED A BRAND NEW VEHICLE, DESTROYED IT AND SAID
Frak' OFF, "We have unlimited resources to crush you."



[b]The Pro Comp lift kit does not fit, no problem we
will just grind and spray paint[/b]


]]Lets make the engine into shrapnel


[Anybody want to commit Odometer Fraud on your
leased vehicle, 4WP will provide you with a zero mile odometer NP


[i][b]Thinking you just bought a brand new exhaust, NOPE 4WP installs a USED One[


4WP will sell anything, no matter if its garbage, re-welded


Rear Diff skid plate, NP, lets pinch the rear brake line








WHAT 4WP IS TERRIFIED OF
Federal Trade Commission
Internet Fraud Complaint Center
Office of Defects Investigation
VEHICLE REPAIR ACT  

I don't care for those guys either.  
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5.5 rubi longarm, dana 44's, cromoly shafts,currie HD stering,currie antirock,warn powerplant,warn bumpers,4.88 35's

I don't like them either. They are always running some misleading advertising (pricing gimicks).

So, I find this web site TirePackage.Com. They had good prices on the new BFG KM2 and if you buy 3 pro comp wheels they give you the forth free.

So I bought them. They showed up with balance weight on the inside lip only. Not a sufficient way to balance. They should either be tape weighted on the center line of the rim or split weighted and have weight on both the inside and outside lips.

So, I called them. You'll never guess who answered the phone. 4wheelParts.

I asked them for my $50 back that I paid for balancing, so I could have it corrected locally. They said sure, in the form of a gift card.

I looked up the price of my wheel and tire package on 4wp and the same thing was $110 more. I also found out that 4wheeldrive Hardware is also the same company. So, I looked up the price there also, $140 more.

Now, if they can sell them on TirePackage for less, What's the scam. And why are they doing business as so many different names. Good companys spend millions on brand name recognition strategys.

These guys spend millions hiding who and what they really are.  

holy cow! you mean 4wd hardware (the catalog, like quadratec) is these guys?  
I work to support my Jeep

Yep that's right and they are always looking for ways to do someone wrong.  
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5.5 rubi longarm, dana 44's, cromoly shafts,currie HD stering,currie antirock,warn powerplant,warn bumpers,4.88 35's

The company is Transamerican Auto Parts. They are a 4x4 parts wholesale distibutor. They also supply every 4x4 shop with most of their inventories. They also own Pro Comp.

It would seem to be difficult to not be supporting them if you buy 4x4 parts.  

WHAT 4WP IS TERRIFIED OF
Federal Trade Commission
Internet Fraud Complaint Center
Office of Defects Investigation
VEHICLE REPAIR ACT



ACTUAL 4WP SCAMS PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL OVER THE INTERNET


1) My favorite 4WP scam is the "buy 3, get 1 free" deal on the Procomp tires or shocks. Whenever they offer this deal they also jack up the price by about $20-$30/tire and/or raise shipping,or i must buy their tire warranty to get free shipping.  They also add F.E.T tax and Pallet Fees, even though the tires did not come on a pallet. (Shipping Complaints should be made to the Federal Trade Commission and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center)

2) I also dealt the the "shipping charges" when getting parts. As mentioned they never have any real 4x4 parts in stock and wanted to charge me shipping even if I picked the parts up at the store.....WTF


3) My favorite is the Warn M8000 I almost ordered from them online. They were advertising free shipping. Weeee! Well, when I got to the page to confirm my order I noticed that there was a $50 handling charge.
(Shipping Complaints should be made to the Federal Trade Commission and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center)


4) Not only did 4 Wheel Parts screw up my order, there were over 10 parts missing from my kit.  Even though they messed up, they forced me to pay for Re-Shipping the crap back to them.  When i got the second box, i noticed the original factory seals had also be opened.
(Shipping Complaints should be made to the Federal Trade Commission and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center)


5) Tire Warranty, (No Questions Asked) is Deceptive.  No questions asked means just that, (If anything happens to my tire, no questions will be asked and replaced.)  Not the case, its “False & Misleading” to consumers for the fact that the warranty does ask questions and allows 4WP to reject tire warranty claims at anytime.

Exclusions that are no longer on their website
Tires are to be used under normal conditions. Tires which have been (abused) will not be covered by the contract). Excludes coverage for commercial use, competition, or rock crawling will not be covered. 4WP failed to define the word (Abused) or (Normal Conditions).

If warranty claim is made, customer must pay for mounting, balance, F.E.T taxes, and purchase a new tire warranty for the tire, being $100.00 or more
(Shipping Complaints should be made to the Federal Trade Commission and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center)


6) SELLING USED EQUIPMENT AS NEW.  I purchased a Bulley Dog triple dog combo diesel tuner and outlook monitor. This order was placed at the Special Events annual truck show in Bloomsburg Pa which i attend every year.

About a week later i received a package and upon opening it i realized it was previously opened and had been resealed to look like it was not tampered with. The lable on the box was also for a ford not my dodge. I also noticed that there was carbon on a part that gets installed in the exhaust manifold (meaning it was used). Also some small parts that would normally be in a factory sealed box were all in a Zip Lock bag.

In short i received a used unit w/ missing parts that was the wrong one in the first place !!!

Dennis
Brick, New Jersey
(Shipping Complaints should be made to the Federal Trade Commission and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center)



7)IMPROPER INSTALLATION, I had a 3' Rancho Lift Kit Installed on my Chevy Tahoe. I have been quite happy with a number of Rancho lift kits installed on differnt vehicles over the years so was surprised when I was hearing strange noises.

This particular 4 Wheel parts location has moved but I'm making this posting as a warning to others to be careful about their incompentence.

After numerous complaints via the phone and in person I was deemed a nusiance customer and they ignored me. They did try to grease fittings and grind areas that they thought were rubbing. Nothing was working. They finally told me I was a nusance and because my truck had fairly high mileage on it, I should get use to the noise.

I was driving towards the freeway one day about a mile from the on-ramp when I came upon a 4 way stop. When I put my foot on the brake the pedal went all the way to the floor and i of course went through the intersection. luckily no one else was at the intersection.

The outcome of all of this was that the brake line was improperly routed through the lift kit. It was the cause of the noise and finally broke. had it happened on the freeway, I could have been killed with potentially several others since my Chevy tahoe is not a light vehicle and I don't tend to drive it slow.

I tried to get 4 Wheel Parts to address the issue and give me a refund. I had the brake cable replaced elsewhere. They refused to do anything about the issue and to this day I'm still disputing the credit charge with the credit company 4 Wheel Parts offers to their customers directly.

Barry
Tarzana, California
U.S.A.

The  Legislature enacted the Automotive Repair Act in 1971 in response to consumer and industry concerns about unacceptable levels of fraud or incompetence in the auto repair market.

Look Up Automotive Repair Act in your State  

that was just in the last few years wasn't it.  Barry Ryan used to own 4wd and made it a big name,  procomp offered him a price he sold it.  Ryan wasn't even a jeeper he just thought there was a good market for it.  1 more reason to shop quadratec.  

Wow crazy info I almost drove accross town to see what they were about. Good thing I saved the gas!!  
That must be the engine gremlin I've heard about.

I was wondering about that...I ordered a bunch of stuff awhile back. Half came from 4WD Hardware the rest from 4WP. Even had the shipping lables from 4WP.  
When you're finished....you're done

Wow that is some shocking information. Amazing how they are still in business...  

PASS THIS TORCH  

holy crap i didn't know of all this. i probably should have suspected something when i noticed to obvious similarities between the 4wp and 4wd websites. good thing i didn't buy from them. whew, dodged that bullet!  
1998 Wrangler 2.5L 4cyl. 30x9.5 m/t tires, everything else stock, definite work in progress.

i was gonna order a new bump stop from them, guess i'll be calling quadratec instead (probably get it faster too, they're like 45min from me)  
I work to support my Jeep

Glad to see that some people look at this forum and get info and use it to their advantage.  
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5.5 rubi longarm, dana 44's, cromoly shafts,currie HD stering,currie antirock,warn powerplant,warn bumpers,4.88 35's