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No lift YJ with 40's
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Posted: 08/09/08 03:36 PM
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I think it's a pretty cool idea, but what about the turning radius? Is going with overwide axles a must? I put 33-10.50's on stock rims and had to adjust the steering stops.
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neale_rs
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Posted: 08/20/08 03:12 PM
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Judging by the level of the bottom of the tub relative to the top of the wheels that YJ is lifted about 5 inches. It is still a good project and a good LCG Jeep but it is far from "no lift".
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ryanbz
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Posted: 09/25/08 04:00 PM
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hey just wondering what u went with for a front axle? i saw the rear was a nine inch
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Willys
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Posted: 12/15/08 04:49 PM
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Its about 1"- 1.5" of suspension, and a 1-inch Daystar body lift. It sits the same height or a little lower than Red, our '01 TJ with 4.5 inches of lift and 35's.
I'm working on the engine and transmission right now, and I'm eyeballing a 9-inch front axle and rear axle for the project.
As for the wider axles, as the tire diameter grows, the tire itself will get closer to the springs and frames for a fixed amount of steering angle. Right now the front axle is about 61-inches, and its nowhere near being able to turn from lock-to-lock. It'll need about a 65-inch wide axle to get full steering lock. I'm only going as wide as I need to in order to get that full lock situation.
- Pete Trasborg, Associate Editor, JP Magazine
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ajmille
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Posted: 12/15/08 04:59 PM
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Hello sounds like you have a neat project going on. JP magazine did a tj w/ 35 no lift, they did this with a fiberglass rockcrawler hood witch I have, by the way the hood is crap a lot of work had to go into it not just to fit right but all the hoods bracing had to come out as it was stuck with fiberglass bondo witch I ended up using resin to stick them back in place.Now W/ the TJ they had to move back the rear end back 1" so the tire wouldnt hit the wheel well by the doors, and they cut the rear wheel wells and add some longer bump stops.As far as the widder axles you dont have to do that, as you can get different wheel w/ more back spacing or hub spacers. I wsh you good luck and hope to see some picters when done in readers rides.
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mudb8-
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Posted: 12/15/08 05:22 PM
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the 9"'ll be nice, I'd love to get a set in my tj and run 40's with my 2.5" lift and DIY highlines, the money tree is dead an I'd need 6.30 gears to turn em with the auto. a true hi-9 would fit my needs nicely with the 37's
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MITJ
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Posted: 02/24/09 05:14 PM
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Willys: Its about 1"- 1.5" of suspension, and a 1-inch Daystar body lift. It sits the same height or a little lower than Red, our '01 TJ with 4.5 inches of lift and 35's.
I'm working on the engine and transmission right now, and I'm eyeballing a 9-inch front axle and rear axle for the project.
As for the wider axles, as the tire diameter grows, the tire itself will get closer to the springs and frames for a fixed amount of steering angle. Right now the front axle is about 61-inches, and its nowhere near being able to turn from lock-to-lock. It'll need about a 65-inch wide axle to get full steering lock. I'm only going as wide as I need to in order to get that full lock situation.
What is the axle travel up, and droop. planning to do this with my 01 tj.
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mudb8-
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Posted: 02/24/09 08:57 PM
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uptravel and droop depends on your shock length, nothing to do with tire size and lift hieght..
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cheepsk8
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Posted: 02/25/09 06:27 AM
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I loved seeing this project. I think those genright fenders are way too expensive for me though. would have to "fab" my own. have you guys done an article on that?
08 GC CRD. FS 2500 bypass filter, ARB bull bar. 42 GPW resto project.
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monster_01
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Posted: 02/25/09 06:46 AM
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Fabing your own would be allot of work but it is possible.
************************* 5.5 rubi longarm, dana 44's, cromoly shafts,currie HD stering,currie antirock,warn powerplant,warn bumpers,4.88 35's
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MITJ
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Posted: 02/25/09 09:04 AM
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mudb8-: uptravel and droop depends on your shock length, nothing to do with tire size and lift hieght..
I guess I should clarify my question, how much wheel travel is possible,up, before tire contact is made with the fenders.
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Posted: 02/25/09 11:40 AM
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ajmille: Hello sounds like you have a neat project going on. JP magazine did a tj w/ 35 no lift, they did this with a fiberglass rockcrawler hood witch I have, by the way the hood is crap a lot of work had to go into it not just to fit right but all the hoods bracing had to come out as it was stuck with fiberglass bondo witch I ended up using resin to stick them back in place.Now W/ the TJ they had to move back the rear end back 1" so the tire wouldnt hit the wheel well by the doors, and they cut the rear wheel wells and add some longer bump stops.As far as the widder axles you dont have to do that, as you can get different wheel w/ more back spacing or hub spacers. I wsh you good luck and hope to see some picters when done in readers rides.
I dont know what hood you have, but the one I installed for the article was (and still is) very well built. Its strong, light, and was easy to install. moving all of the items that were on the inner fender wells, well that was a lot of work, but the hood its self was easy!
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mudb8-
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Posted: 02/25/09 05:10 PM
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mudb8-: uptravel and droop depends on your shock length, nothing to do with tire size and lift hieght..
MITJ: I guess I should clarify my question, how much wheel travel is possible,up, before tire contact is made with the fenders.
k, yer gonna make me swallow that one eh... lift height affects uptravel/downtravel with a given shock length...
what kind of combo do you have in mind?
with a 4" lift, 2" bumpstops and 25.5" long shocks..(10" travel), you have about 4.5" up travel when the shocks bottom out and 5.5" down travel from ride height. with stock fenders 33-34" tires are clear of the fenders.^^^ AEV/DIY highline fenders/highline tube fenders/molded highline replacement hoods.. (not standard tube fenders that require no hood triming) give you another 3.25", throw in a 1.25" body lift and you have 4.5".... clearance for 37-38.5" rubber.
add some longer shocks, like 27" you loose uptravel, gain down travel, and another inch of possible tire size. the longer shocks require more bumpstop height (3" for 27's) thats all based on using the factory TJ shock mounts...
i'm guessing the hood vern is using gained around 5"...
if you're after a ton of flex, use long shocks which decrease the uptravel and can make for arough ride, if you want a nice ride for high speed bumps or pot holes in the hwy, go for a shorter shock that balances out the up/down travel based on your lift height or relocate the shock mounts to keep balance with longer shocks.
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MITJ
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Posted: 02/26/09 08:54 AM
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thanks for the info, stock height springs, trimmed Highline fenders, 38-39.5 tires, would like to achieve 6" upand 8" droop.
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mudb8-
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Posted: 02/26/09 12:02 PM
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MITJ: thanks for the info, stock height springs, trimmed Highline fenders, 38-39.5 tires, would like to achieve 6" upand 8" droop.
2.5"+ budget boost spacers (depends on your stock uptravel to the bumpstop @ ride height), no extended bumpstops, 32" shocks, relocated shock towers up front, outboard mounted rear shocks, highline fenders(3.25") and 2.5-3" body lift, (2.5" backspaced wheels assuming stock width tj axles.. which are a bad idea for more than 35" tires).. to get 38.5's with 6" uptravel, 8" down travel on stock springs. the springs will need to be secured to prevent them from falling out. less body lift means less uptravel/more bumpstop or smaller tires.
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