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Posted: 05/17/08 07:37 AM
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Ok, I can't seem to figure this one out. So I hope someone has had the same noise. It sounds like the front axle area passenger side from what I can tell. The noise itself sounds kind of like a banging clanking noise. It only seems to happen when you are going slow and the suppensions flexs a little, going into a parking lot or driveway. I thought it was the sway bar links, so I replaced both with new links, still there. Here's the part I can't figure out. I drove it with links off, no noise. I just replaced the shocks and steering stabalizer and the noise is still there. The only thing I can figure is it's the front control arm bushings. The jeep has 110000 miles on it. Any thoughts?
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mudb8-
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Posted: 05/17/08 09:21 AM
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seems logical. take off the cover and look at the bushings, are the new joints tight?
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Posted: 05/17/08 12:59 PM
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Yep new links are tight. Checked them yesterday when installing the new shocks. Also didn't see anything out off place. The only thing was in the rear control arms seemed loose. Checked them, bolts were tight not sure about bushings, not sure how loose they are new. I didn't want to buy parts that aren't the problem, know what I mean?
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ftgiles
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Posted: 05/17/08 01:54 PM
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If it does not make any noise with the front sway bar links removed, then maybe it is the frame mount bushings for the sway bar. Take off the links and move the sway bar by hand. Sometimes it gets really tight in the busings under the plastic cover located on the top front of the frame rails. That might be where the noise is??
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Posted: 05/21/08 03:41 PM
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Finally I have information that I can help out with. My JT does the exact same thing. Since I put the body lift on it the 4WD shifter is at an awkward angle and the plastic bushing on the shaft breaks due to the added stress. Since the bushing is no longer there when you start off the flex of the driveline moves the shifter around. Do this to make sure that is what it is. When you let your clutch out put some pressure on your 4WD lever pulling it towards you. This should stop the noise...
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ftgiles
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Posted: 05/21/08 05:44 PM
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Hey RockSolidJeep,
I have a 1" BL on my TJ and am using a TCase shifter bracket from Advance Adapters. Cost like $30 bucks. It eliminates the attachment point at the body. The whole shifter mechanism is suported from the AA bracket. It shifts way better than stock!! Skyjacker also sells one and looks very similar in design, but cost more.
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dinorl007
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Posted: 05/24/08 05:32 AM
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my 20004 tj did the same thing, but it was on the passenger side, what aif ound with my jeep was the inner fender mount that bolts to the firewall, the bolts were kinda loose, not falling off loose, but not real tight either, check the bolts along the firewall behind the fender and under the dash and make sure they are tight, that s w aht it was in my jeep hope this helps
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Posted: 05/30/08 06:13 PM
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thanks for all the info. I removed both the links and moved the swaybar, then drove it. Still made the noise. So I was wrong, not swaybars. Today I took the top off for better hearing. I think it's coming from the pass rear. I can make the noise by putting it in low and popping the cluch, but it's hard to stand outside and listen I don't have a body lift and the jeep is pretty stock except for a newly added 3/4 coil spacer lift and shocks. The noise happened before any thing was added, but i'll check the shifter and the fender bolts. I kind of think it might be the rear control arm bushings. I looked at them and they appear normal, but I don't know
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ftgiles
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Posted: 05/30/08 06:20 PM
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Can you describe the conditions that cause the noise more specifically. Straight, turning, braking, speed up, coast, how fast, bumps?
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Posted: 05/31/08 03:08 PM
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Doesn't matter what direction i'm going, left, right or stright. Not sure if it does it in reverse, never heard it. Also can't here it over about 20 mph. Whats weird is it doesn't do it over every bump very hit and miss. Ever been down a gravel road with some base rock sticking up say 2-3 inches spaced 20-30 feet apart? It would make the noise on that traveling about 10mph, but not every bump. It'll make the noise coasting or speeding up. Haven't had time to check t-case shifter, hopefully tomorrow
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ftgiles
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Posted: 05/31/08 04:56 PM
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Try sitting in the driver's seat and have someone get the jeep rock'n side to side from the rear. Start out slow and soft, then gradually increase faster and harder.
If no noise, set the e-brake. Do the same thing front to rear. This way is harder to get rock'n, and you might just hear the driveline clicking.
These are good tests to check for bushing wear in the track bar and the control arms.
Next bounce the rear up and down in the same fashion. This will also exercise the CA's in addition to the spings, shocks and sway bar, but not the sway bar links much. Then you might want to remove the lower shock mounts. This will make it easier to bounce from each rear corner independently.
Hey remember that bumper sticker from the '70s that everybody had on their vans... "Don't be knock'n when she's rock'n". Have fun.
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Posted: 05/31/08 07:29 PM
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if only I didn't really know what you were talkin about!
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Posted: 06/01/08 07:15 AM
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Well part of the problem I'm the only one strong enough in the family to get her rock'n. I have rocked it and can make the noise but hard to pin down. I also disconnect the shocks all the way around plus the front sway bars. When a did the front swaybars, noise whent away. So bought two new links and still does it. So the other day disconnect the links and the noise is still there. I havn't got real agressive with the up and down bounce. Will try that also. One thing that seems weird is if there are two people in the jeep the noise happens more often. Which is why I thought it might be the control arm bushings, put not sure which one. I thought about disconnecting one at a time, but sometimes i can't make the noise while rock'n. Anyway thanks for the help, i'm sure we will get to the bottom of it with all the help
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Posted: 06/01/08 12:30 PM
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have tou checked the rear track bar bolts and bushings?
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Posted: 06/06/08 09:55 AM
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Ok you guys won't believe this. So I checked everything that everybody said, with nosie still there. So still thinking that it had to be the control arms, I took off the lower pass side. When I did a rock falled out. The rock had placed itself on top off the control arm bolt and was wedged between the frame mount and the arm. It was nicely polished and was shaped like a wedge. I put everything back together and went for a test drive, no noise. I would have NEVER thought a rock could make so much noise. I had checked those bushing half a dozen times, but because it was on top I couldn't see it. Thanks everyone for your words of wisdom, hey aleast now I know everthing else is ok after going over it with a fine tooth comb.
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