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mbsmtnboarder mbsmtnboarder
New User | Posts: 10 | Joined: 08/07
Posted: 05/21/08
10:23 PM

I was just hoping someone could tell me how to bleed the clutch on my NV3550, in a 03 TJ. I looked and I dont see a bleeder screw or anything, maybe im just being blind, I dont know. Also if you could tell me how many quarts of oil the NV3550 takes that would be very helpfull. Thanks for any info

Rob  


 
chariotofmanliness
Enthusiast | Posts: 536 | Joined: 10/07
Posted: 05/22/08
07:11 AM

you might have a sealed system. is the resovoir full? if your tranny is like my ax15 you'll need 5 quarts to fill it.  


I work to support my Jeep

 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/22/08
10:56 AM

From the FSM:

NV3550 takes 4.2 pints (1.98L). Fill to bottom edge of plug hole. Use Mopar® Manual Transmission Lubricant, Penzoil or Quaker State Synchromesh.

Your clutch bleed question will be hard to answer. The FSM does say it's sealed. Some will say you can bleed. There isn't a bleeder screw if it's the OEM slave.

What issue are you working on? Issues with the hydraulic clutch system?  


 
mbsmtnboarder mbsmtnboarder
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Posted: 05/22/08
02:53 PM

FSM? It seems like my clutch isnt engaging all the ways, it will still kill the motor if I hold the brakes but at some stop lights when I hit the clutch and grab first I can feel my jeep move a little bit, and in between gears its hard shifting.

One other thing I noticed is that there is a very small drip coming off of the tranny right at the flywheel, but the flywheel looks dry. I dont know if the drip is oil from the motor, or maybe if I have a seal out in the hydraulic clutch system and its leaking, hense the clutch isnt engaging all the ways.

I hope I answered your question, and im not sounding like too much of a dumb ass.  


 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/22/08
04:44 PM

FSM - facory service manual.

Is the clutch master cylinder reservoir full?

Put some oil from the dip stick and a drop from the reservoir on to some white paper. Then soak up some from the drip and compare.

Have someone work the clutch and you could check for movement of the clutch fork.  


 
mbsmtnboarder mbsmtnboarder
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Posted: 05/22/08
06:29 PM

yea the reservoir is full, and I will try both those things, and when I was driving today the FSM finally clicked and I felt dumb. Thanks for the help I'll inform you of the results, thanks again.

Rob  


 
chariotofmanliness
Enthusiast | Posts: 536 | Joined: 10/07
Posted: 05/23/08
05:55 AM

sounds like the slave cylander is going bad. had the same problem with mine. i'm not familiar with your set up, but mine was the complete set up......master cylander, hydralic line and slave cylander (all ready to install). what might be happening, as in my case, the fluid is seeping past the seal in the slave and you don't have the right amount of pressure to work the clutch.  


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mbsmtnboarder mbsmtnboarder
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Posted: 05/23/08
11:35 AM

I checked both and the fluids were different and I couldnt see in far enough without taking stuff apart. im first going to try changing the tranny oil, picked up the exspencive mopar oil, then if that doesn't fix the hard shifting i'll probably try a new slave cylinder.

where did you pick up your new setup with the master cylinder, line and slave cylinder?

thanks
rob  


 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/23/08
11:43 AM

You will be able to find the slave at the parts store and some have a bleeder. The parts store might also have the whole system. If you want OEM here is a link to online MOPAR parts. That will save you tax and it's wholesale pricing. And here is a bleed procedure you can try if you get one from the parts store that does not have a bleeder...  


 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/23/08
11:48 AM

http://www.moparone.com

http://www.quadratec.com/jeep_knowledgebase/article-117.htm  


 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/23/08
11:55 AM

MoparOne has the whole thing listed under clutch, hydrolic, master for $80. That would be my choice. It is complete, not refurbished, and you won't have to mess around with bleeding. Sounds so simple to just bleed but it's not.  


 
mbsmtnboarder mbsmtnboarder
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Posted: 05/28/08
08:09 PM

So I finnally got the tranny oil changed . . . what a pain in the ass! well the tranny did quiet down, and shifting easier, but still didnt fix my problem. I guess I'll just have to try pulling the slave cylinder and if its leaking i'll get a new slave cylinder setup from mopar one. Thanks for the help

Rob  


 
ftgiles
Enthusiast | Posts: 689 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/29/08
09:47 AM

Just an FYI from the FSM:

HARD SHIFTING

Hard shifting is usually caused by a low lubricant
level, improper or contaminated lubricants, transmission component damage, clutch linkage malfunction, or by a damaged clutch pressure plate or disc.

Substantial lubricant leaks can result in gear, shift
component, synchro and bearing damage. If a leak
goes undetected for an extended period, the first indications of a problem are usually hard shifting and
noise.

Incorrect or contaminated lubricants can also contribute to hard shifting. The consequence of using
non–recommended lubricants is noise, excessive
wear, internal bind and hard shifting.

Improper clutch release is a frequent cause of hard
shifting. Incorrect adjustment or a worn, damaged
pressure plate or disc can cause incorrect release. If
the clutch problem is advanced, gear clash during
shifts can result.  


 
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