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gerry_p
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Posted: 04/16/08
07:13 PM
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I just bought a new project - a 1952 Willys (?). The registration says it is a Ford with a VIN of F100206 but the tailgate says Willys. Did Ford put Willys on the tailgates - seems unlikely. Anyway, I can't find the VIN on the frame. I have been looking on the driver's side frame rail by the front bumper. Would it be stamped or attached with a tag? There are no other tags on the dash or on the fender well behind the passenger seat. What do I have here?
Gerry
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Jp Editor
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Posted: 04/18/08
10:41 AM
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Ehhh, Ford only made the GPW during WWII. And they did not have Willys logos. Some early models actually had Ford logos but the military put a stop to that pretty quick. Neither the Ford GPW or the Willys MB had a tailgate. Sounds like someone screwed up the registration at some point. There is no such thing as a 1952 Ford GPW. What does the grille look like? Windshield frame? It could just be a hodge-podge of parts and registration to match. Not uncommon at all.
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mudb8-
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Posted: 04/18/08
06:52 PM
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text ot e-mail pics to my photobucket, I'll post em...
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gerry_p
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Posted: 04/19/08
09:02 PM
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I'm from Canada guys. This jeep is supposed to have been built by Ford Canada. Ford built them between Feb. and Nov. 1952 - apparently they built 2,135 of them. It was called an M38. I got this from www.m38al.ca/m38.html. The Willys tailgate may have been piece-mealed. The VIN is supposed to be F100206 but I can't find it on the frame and the tags are gone.
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mudb8-
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Posted: 04/20/08
10:36 AM
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Posted: 04/21/08
05:15 AM
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i dunno, looking at the grill and windsheild, it looks like a willy. i know ford changed the direction of the grill slats on the m151.
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Posted: 04/21/08
08:11 AM
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'52 CJ-3A
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Posted: 04/21/08
12:17 PM
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There were some M-38s built in Canada. However, they were built by the Canadian Willys subsidiary. They were referred to as an M-38CDN. But yours looks pretty modified. Anyway, I can assure you it's not really a Ford-built Jeep.
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Posted: 04/22/08
03:43 PM
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Its a good looking rig anyway.
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fwlslyr
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Posted: 12/15/08
09:39 PM
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I think you'll find you have a hodgepodge of parts. Does it have a glove box? That would make it an M38. You clearly have a modified hood. Thats an M38 gas tank, CJ3 windshield and military bodies don't have tailgates. Does it have the military plates on the dash?
No matter what it's a sweet ride!
75 CJ-5 401 wrapped in glass, fully locked, 34 LTB's, snorkel and Warn 8274.
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1953M38A1
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Posted: 12/16/08
06:09 PM
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I have a 1953 Ford M38A1cnd, Dash plate reads "Ford Motor Co of Canada LTD" # F-200678. I know of many M38 that have the same dash plates. If your M38 is a canadian model then the registration will say Ford.
From what I have been told Willys contracted Ford Canada to build these for Canada and over seas.
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